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	<title>Comments on: Oak Harbor City Councilman Rick Almberg walks out of City Council meeting. He refuses to follow his oath by supporting the laws of the State of Washington and our Washington State Constitution.</title>
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		<title>By: Jason W</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2013 18:44:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(quoting monty python)

&quot;help help, I&#039;m being repressed!&quot;

Great idea there, George!</description>
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<p>&#8220;help help, I&#8217;m being repressed!&#8221;</p>
<p>Great idea there, George!</p>
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		<title>By: Cliff</title>
		<link>http://www.islandpolitics.org/?p=8732#comment-3004</link>
		<dc:creator>Cliff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2013 20:32:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree. 
This issue needs to be de-escalalated and it appears that the gun owners are the only adults in the room.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree.<br />
This issue needs to be de-escalalated and it appears that the gun owners are the only adults in the room.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh G</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2013 17:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Showing support is definitely needed but I did want your group to contemplate showing up with badges that state&quot;I carry&quot; (or something to that affect) instead of flooding the room with armed citizens. You can bet that others will already be armed so that base will be covered. But you can show we gun owners can take others concerns into consideration so everyone can focus on the issue at hand instead of the guns.

I attended last months rally at the capitol with my gun on my hip but this is a different venue and we have seen open carry in situations like this backfire before. What we need now more than ever is level headed approach. I personally believe your group can make a bigger more helpful statement showing up unarmed while making it clear you usually are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Showing support is definitely needed but I did want your group to contemplate showing up with badges that state&#8221;I carry&#8221; (or something to that affect) instead of flooding the room with armed citizens. You can bet that others will already be armed so that base will be covered. But you can show we gun owners can take others concerns into consideration so everyone can focus on the issue at hand instead of the guns.</p>
<p>I attended last months rally at the capitol with my gun on my hip but this is a different venue and we have seen open carry in situations like this backfire before. What we need now more than ever is level headed approach. I personally believe your group can make a bigger more helpful statement showing up unarmed while making it clear you usually are.</p>
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		<title>By: Victor-Douglas :Bunch</title>
		<link>http://www.islandpolitics.org/?p=8732#comment-2996</link>
		<dc:creator>Victor-Douglas :Bunch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2013 23:36:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frankly Guy&#039;s I don&#039;t kno why you need permission from gov. to carry ,  I was born with permission from my heavenly father, I won&#039;t give up my right for a priviledge, Maybe Almburg should wear a hat so no one get blinded by reflection</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frankly Guy&#8217;s I don&#8217;t kno why you need permission from gov. to carry ,  I was born with permission from my heavenly father, I won&#8217;t give up my right for a priviledge, Maybe Almburg should wear a hat so no one get blinded by reflection</p>
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		<title>By: Cliff</title>
		<link>http://www.islandpolitics.org/?p=8732#comment-2995</link>
		<dc:creator>Cliff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2013 23:16:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Dick act has been degraded by several more recent laws but the portion of the Dick Act that interests us the most is still quite alive. It places into our laws the fact that the unorganized militia is all US Citizens who are age 17-45. Yes this is the same Militia talked about in the 2nd Amendment.

The Dick Act is codified in 10 USC § 311 and defines who is the militia. It states:

(a) The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard. 
(b) The classes of the militia are— 
(1) the organized militia, which consists of the National Guard and the Naval Militia; and 
(2) the unorganized militia, which consists of the members of the militia who are not members of the National Guard or the Naval Militia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Dick act has been degraded by several more recent laws but the portion of the Dick Act that interests us the most is still quite alive. It places into our laws the fact that the unorganized militia is all US Citizens who are age 17-45. Yes this is the same Militia talked about in the 2nd Amendment.</p>
<p>The Dick Act is codified in 10 USC § 311 and defines who is the militia. It states:</p>
<p>(a) The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard.<br />
(b) The classes of the militia are—<br />
(1) the organized militia, which consists of the National Guard and the Naval Militia; and<br />
(2) the unorganized militia, which consists of the members of the militia who are not members of the National Guard or the Naval Militia.</p>
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		<title>By: Victor-Douglas :Bunch</title>
		<link>http://www.islandpolitics.org/?p=8732#comment-2993</link>
		<dc:creator>Victor-Douglas :Bunch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2013 22:51:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is another law that the councilmen and everyone else that has never seen it should be awarw of.  the dick act of June 28th 1902 chk it out, U might want to open an acc. @ www.startpage.com first they dont record any search&#039;s that u perform</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is another law that the councilmen and everyone else that has never seen it should be awarw of.  the dick act of June 28th 1902 chk it out, U might want to open an acc. @ <a href="http://www.startpage.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.startpage.com</a> first they dont record any search&#8217;s that u perform</p>
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		<title>By: Victor-Douglas :Bunch</title>
		<link>http://www.islandpolitics.org/?p=8732#comment-2992</link>
		<dc:creator>Victor-Douglas :Bunch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2013 22:37:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not only was Almburg completely out of order, if he does not resign he should be relieved of his duties as a councilman, Theres a name for someone with ahead like his and they are both slick, but I will not go there out of respect for the office! I highly aplaude the Mayor for his stand!! We need more men with gonads.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not only was Almburg completely out of order, if he does not resign he should be relieved of his duties as a councilman, Theres a name for someone with ahead like his and they are both slick, but I will not go there out of respect for the office! I highly aplaude the Mayor for his stand!! We need more men with gonads.</p>
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		<title>By: Fred Salivia</title>
		<link>http://www.islandpolitics.org/?p=8732#comment-2931</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred Salivia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2013 01:46:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem that we face today is the unwillingness of elected officials to start any proceedings of law to eliminate other officials from their positions if they violate oaths of office. It&#039;s up to the mayor and other councilmen to begin proceedings to remove any councilmen that will not uphold their oaths of office. Lets see if they do this or just become part of the circus of inept and unscrupulous  politicians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem that we face today is the unwillingness of elected officials to start any proceedings of law to eliminate other officials from their positions if they violate oaths of office. It&#8217;s up to the mayor and other councilmen to begin proceedings to remove any councilmen that will not uphold their oaths of office. Lets see if they do this or just become part of the circus of inept and unscrupulous  politicians.</p>
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		<title>By: BillB</title>
		<link>http://www.islandpolitics.org/?p=8732#comment-2823</link>
		<dc:creator>BillB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2013 18:19:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TC Shield wrote: &quot;free speech is (sic) not apply in this backward island county. a bunch of moron (sic).&quot;

Not only is the US Constitution&#039;s 1st Amendment alive and well in Island County, WA, so, too, is the 2nd Amendment, along with the ability to write using proper English.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TC Shield wrote: &#8220;free speech is (sic) not apply in this backward island county. a bunch of moron (sic).&#8221;</p>
<p>Not only is the US Constitution&#8217;s 1st Amendment alive and well in Island County, WA, so, too, is the 2nd Amendment, along with the ability to write using proper English.</p>
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		<title>By: Cliff</title>
		<link>http://www.islandpolitics.org/?p=8732#comment-2818</link>
		<dc:creator>Cliff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2013 14:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The councilman did not just speak his mind. He made a motion, a stupid illegal motion, which was illegal in the eyes of the Washington State laws which we all live by. 

If it was just that he gave his opinion you would have never heard of this incident or seen the video. He went beyond that and into the realm of actually making a motion that he knew was against Washington State law and what is right.

He grandstanded and he lost in the arena of public opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The councilman did not just speak his mind. He made a motion, a stupid illegal motion, which was illegal in the eyes of the Washington State laws which we all live by. </p>
<p>If it was just that he gave his opinion you would have never heard of this incident or seen the video. He went beyond that and into the realm of actually making a motion that he knew was against Washington State law and what is right.</p>
<p>He grandstanded and he lost in the arena of public opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: TC Shield</title>
		<link>http://www.islandpolitics.org/?p=8732#comment-2815</link>
		<dc:creator>TC Shield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2013 06:21:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, when your mayor and gun happpy owners speaked up about their right, they called heroes and stand up citizens but when the councilman speak up his mind you people called him coward, I guess free speech is not apply in this backward island county. a bunch of moron.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, when your mayor and gun happpy owners speaked up about their right, they called heroes and stand up citizens but when the councilman speak up his mind you people called him coward, I guess free speech is not apply in this backward island county. a bunch of moron.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob B.</title>
		<link>http://www.islandpolitics.org/?p=8732#comment-2786</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2013 18:09:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love that the brave citizen spoke his mind and also that the mayor  had the marbles to stand up for the citizen&#039;s God given constitutional right.   Those two council members are pure cowards through and through and make me sick to my stomach.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love that the brave citizen spoke his mind and also that the mayor  had the marbles to stand up for the citizen&#8217;s God given constitutional right.   Those two council members are pure cowards through and through and make me sick to my stomach.</p>
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		<title>By: GeorgeR</title>
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		<dc:creator>GeorgeR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2013 16:08:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is another law this councilman needs to be aware of, which I&#039;m sure is basically the same in Washington as in my home state of Texas. It&#039;s known as &quot;official oppression&quot; and is directed at public officials, whether elected or hired, who attempt to illegally impose their will on others by virtue of the authority derived from that position. Both the Police Chief and the local Prosecuting Attorney will be very familiar with it...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is another law this councilman needs to be aware of, which I&#8217;m sure is basically the same in Washington as in my home state of Texas. It&#8217;s known as &#8220;official oppression&#8221; and is directed at public officials, whether elected or hired, who attempt to illegally impose their will on others by virtue of the authority derived from that position. Both the Police Chief and the local Prosecuting Attorney will be very familiar with it&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Cliff</title>
		<link>http://www.islandpolitics.org/?p=8732#comment-2764</link>
		<dc:creator>Cliff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2013 15:07:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is what I find appalling in all of this. Our state laws are very clear in that they control all aspects of firearm laws in our state. Mr Almberg knows this, he has been informed in several council meetings that this indeed is the laws of our State and of our city. 

He took it upon himself to act contrary to State and our cities laws in his attempt to pass a city ordinance that is on it&#039;s face illegal. He did so knowing that what he is proposing is illegal. He acted in an illegal manner and directly against the laws we all follow.

This is really simple issue. In 1996 our city adopted the State laws on firearms in it&#039;s entirety. The parks code which was written in 1965 was not rewritten at the time of the adoption of the State firearm laws and remainders of our old laws were still retained in that parks code. 

Here is what our city code states:

&quot;6.05.370 Firearms and dangerous weapons.
The following sections of RCW Title 9 as now in effect, and as may subsequently be amended, are hereby adopted by reference to establish crimes relating to firearms and dangerous weapons under the Oak Harbor criminal code:&quot;

This is a simple housekeeping issue, our city needs to amend the remainder of it&#039;s code to reflect the fact that RCW 9.41 has been adoptedas the law of our city.  

Mr. Almberg et al is attempting to ride the wave of anti firearm hysteria that we have seen in our news media. He is attempting to bring attention to something that he has absolutely no chance of changing in our City Council chambers. He is wasting massive amounts of the Councils time grandstanding on an issue for no reason.

Hopefully the exposure he has brought himself has taught him something. Next time he wants to act like a pompous *ss in our city council chambers I hope he thinks twice. 

GET ON WITH THE CITIES BUSINESS MR ALMBERG STOP GRANDSTANDING AND ACTING LIKE A FOOL IN FRONT OF THE WORLD.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is what I find appalling in all of this. Our state laws are very clear in that they control all aspects of firearm laws in our state. Mr Almberg knows this, he has been informed in several council meetings that this indeed is the laws of our State and of our city. </p>
<p>He took it upon himself to act contrary to State and our cities laws in his attempt to pass a city ordinance that is on it&#8217;s face illegal. He did so knowing that what he is proposing is illegal. He acted in an illegal manner and directly against the laws we all follow.</p>
<p>This is really simple issue. In 1996 our city adopted the State laws on firearms in it&#8217;s entirety. The parks code which was written in 1965 was not rewritten at the time of the adoption of the State firearm laws and remainders of our old laws were still retained in that parks code. </p>
<p>Here is what our city code states:</p>
<p>&#8220;6.05.370 Firearms and dangerous weapons.<br />
The following sections of RCW Title 9 as now in effect, and as may subsequently be amended, are hereby adopted by reference to establish crimes relating to firearms and dangerous weapons under the Oak Harbor criminal code:&#8221;</p>
<p>This is a simple housekeeping issue, our city needs to amend the remainder of it&#8217;s code to reflect the fact that RCW 9.41 has been adoptedas the law of our city.  </p>
<p>Mr. Almberg et al is attempting to ride the wave of anti firearm hysteria that we have seen in our news media. He is attempting to bring attention to something that he has absolutely no chance of changing in our City Council chambers. He is wasting massive amounts of the Councils time grandstanding on an issue for no reason.</p>
<p>Hopefully the exposure he has brought himself has taught him something. Next time he wants to act like a pompous *ss in our city council chambers I hope he thinks twice. </p>
<p>GET ON WITH THE CITIES BUSINESS MR ALMBERG STOP GRANDSTANDING AND ACTING LIKE A FOOL IN FRONT OF THE WORLD.</p>
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		<title>By: Peet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2013 14:31:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>QUOTE: Two individuals made a mistake on a serious issue. It’s not a crime to have an opinion, or in this case, to publicize an opinion.

Unfortunately these two folks did more then just express an opinion; they acted, under color of authority, to act on their opinion.

It is the ACT, not the OPINION that is at issue here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>QUOTE: Two individuals made a mistake on a serious issue. It’s not a crime to have an opinion, or in this case, to publicize an opinion.</p>
<p>Unfortunately these two folks did more then just express an opinion; they acted, under color of authority, to act on their opinion.</p>
<p>It is the ACT, not the OPINION that is at issue here.</p>
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