North Whidbey Little League Patmore Road ball field users promulgate video of EA-18G in OLF landing pattern

Author:BillB

An email we received along with a link to a YouTube video states:

“Here is a video of the hazardous noise our children are forced to play in at Patmore ballpark! Remember, hearing damage starts at 84 decibels.”

Which parents force their children to play Little League ball and which entity forced North Whidbey Little League to designate one of their 17 ball parks immediately west of the OLF Coupeville remains unclear.

However, the closing of school cafeterias nationwide now seems imminent, as the CDC delineates their sound intensity to be 85 decibels sustained.

 

The Island County AICUZ noise map delineates this geographic area to be within an area of noise greater than 75 decibels.

Michael Monson, who sent us the email and video link has also recently published a letter to the Coupeville Examiner:

“Editor,

I’m so glad the Navy started to practice touch and goes this week instead of observing their published schedule of not practicing.

Gives me faith that they haven’t changed. What they say is not necessarily what they do.  

Michael Monson
Coupeville”

Mr. Monson’s letter requires willful ignorance of the perennial caveat regarding OLF Coupeville training flights:

“Flight operations are subject to change due to weather, operational and/or training requirements.”

EA18G at Patmore ballpark

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13 comments

  1. avatar

    Meanwhile Langley citizens are complaining about “noise” from Mo’s Tavern:

    “Mo’s Pub seeks to ease Langley’s ‘amplified’ noise rules”
    http://www.southwhidbeyrecord.com/news/203834861.html

    …and here is one common comment of interest (in the Facebook comments’ section):

    “If the council decided to go the dB meter route then what the citizens need to see are the credentials of the operator and the calibration of the device. These things are very difficult to operate correctly and the average cop/citizen/person isn’t going to be able to get meaningful and repeatable data to prove how loud anything really is over any appreciable distance. Usually sound problems are not so much volume as they are sound pressure issues that are frequency specific. For example, low frequency sounds travel much further than do high frequency sounds. It’s that bass kick that most of the kids go for when they put stereo systems in their cars.

    There are sound ordinances all over the state along in the vehicle code. Notice they don’t usually say anything about dB levels? It’s because trained and certified operators capable of operating sophisticated and expensive equipment that will stand up to the scrutiny of the courts are not all that available and are very expensive when they can be found.

    So citizens of Langley, don’t fall for the flim flam of the ole dB meter trick by a city council that does not comprehend that such a thing, if it’s to stand up to the scrutiny of the courts, are very very expensive.”

    Perhaps we should eliminate Ambulance sirens as well because they exceed 120 dB, and the recommended exposure limit for repeated exposures is nine seconds!

    Dave Hardesty”

    Quick! Call the WHAAAAAAMBULANCE! Progressive Democratic Socialists are crying AGAIN! What is so funny is these fools think it’s cheaper for taxpayers to move an airfield than it is to move a ball park!

    1. avatar

      Perhaps also relevant, from 2003:

      Airport Land Use Compatibility Guidebook: Measuring Aircraft Noise

      An excerpt:

      “To complicate matters, the human ear is more sensitive to sound energy at higher frequencies than at lower frequencies, and further, the ear’s sensitivity to sounds of different frequencies changes with the level (loudness) of the sound. In problems involving people’s reaction to noise, one needs a way of accounting for the ears varying sensitivity to noises that vary in frequency and in level. Much effort has gone into studies to develop improved methods of relating physical measurements to the subjective response of human listeners. One early approach for improving the correlation between measured pressures and subjective human response was the introduction of frequency weighing networks on sound
      level meters.

      The weighting network that is in the widest use today is the A-weighting network. The network discriminates against the lower frequencies, to which the ear is less sensitive, according to a relationship approximating a person’s subjective reaction in terms of loudness at moderate sound levels. Noise levels with the A weighting network are identified as the “A-weighted sound pressure level of 77 decibels,” or more simply as the “A level of 77dB,” or shorter yet, as 77dBA.” The A-weighting is widely used throughout the world to measure community and industrial noise. It is also widely used to measure motor vehicle and traffic noise.”

  2. avatar

    Here is a very cost effective solution:

    The dog park across from Rhododendron Park has Scoop your Dog Poop Stations, therefore why not install Ear Plug Stations at the ball park?

    Teach your kids about hearing protection!

  3. avatar

    An acquaintance familiar with ball games played at this park commented to me that an actual problem caused by the airplanes in the OLF landing pattern is not aircraft noise, but that the ball players tend to watch the airplanes go around and do not pay close enough attention to the game.

  4. avatar

    A 20 second exposure to noise levels such as this do not cause hearing damage.

    If the Coupeville and Patmore Road park users wish to complain they should complain to the county for building a park in an area that is under the flight pattern of an airfield.

    We have seen the county completely ignore the fact that there are noises here and also the possibility of accidents. We have a new transit facility that has been built directly under the flight pattern of the OLF and now we have people complaining about noise at a ballfield that is in the noise zone.

    We have to ask ourselves why were these facilities built where they were when the issue of noise has always been there since A-6′s started flying here in the 60′s.

    My suggestion is to complain to the commissioners not the Navy…it is not as if these noises just appeared overnight like some would want you to believe.

    1. avatar

      “If the Coupeville and Patmore Road park users wish to complain…”

      Maybe those folks can join up with the folks who use the North Whidbey Little League’s Clover Valley Park, “located near the Porter Gate to the Ault Field portion of Naval Air Station Whidbey Island“.

    2. avatar

      Cliff, they are complaining… Paula Spina who purchased the Crockett Homestead, sight unseen, is bitching to the Island County Commissioners every Monday. Spina’s solution is to have the Navy move. Don’t forget the “farmers” at the Rose Hip Farm who moved in a few years back, and they too are crying in the quartet along with Ken Pickard and Garrett Newkirk.

      Their favorite song… The World Revolves Around Us.

      1. avatar

        Yeah…don’t you just love it. Paul Spina admitted that he never paid any attention to the disclosure statement he received and signed when he purchased the property, after admittedly ignoring it now he wants everything to change…They certainly think “The World Revolves Around Us”.

  5. avatar

    Move the Ball Park or wear ear plugs.

  6. avatar

    A large percentage of people living on our lovely island are either civil service employees, active duty military or retired military personnel who earn their living working for OUR U.S. Government.

    NAS Whidbey has been here since the early 1940′s providing our FREEDOM by providing training for pilots to be able to land on aircraft carriers while deployed from families. While others sit and complain about aircraft noise, these young men and ladies practice so they can perform their missions for our USA…..the entire island is a noise zone…I’ve lived here over 20 years and I signed that I knew of the noise issue and it does not hurt me or my family.

    If the noise is an issue with you or your family move to another location on the island or off the island….the military was here before and will be here after you; move the ball fields. The noise is SOUND OF FREEDOM!!!!!!!!!

  7. avatar

    Yet another Michael Monson letter; this one in the South Whidbey Record:

    “Why Navy jet noise bothers Whidbey residents”
    http://www.southwhidbeyrecord.com/opinion/letters/204926511.html

    “To the editor:

    A lot of people ask, “What’s the big deal about the jet noise at OLF?” They also tend to follow up with, “You knew about the noise when you moved in, you even had to sign a paper saying you did.”

    We’re glad you asked. Our answer can be summed up this way: Imagine that you moved into a house with a 24-hour go-cart racetrack next door, but that you listen for a bit, really love the place and decide you can live with the noise.

    But then they start to race Indy cars! And they have not updated the tracks!

    Would you be upset? You bet.

    Would you try to stop them? You bet.

    Michael Monson

    Coupeville”

    My question: when was it that the Navy flew go carts?

  8. avatar

    Good Morning,

    Given the recent nasty and uncalled for attacks in our local liberal/communist media on our gallant U.S. Navy, I just had to comment.

    As a retired Navy Chief I’ve seen my share of anti American crap in Whidbey newspapers, but the latest attacks on “the sound of freedom” take the cake. I lived under the flight path for OLF for years and can honestly say that I never minded the noise (truth to tell I’m almost completely deaf due to jet noise from many years of flight deck duty during WWII). I bet half the people complaining are hippies on the dole taking money from hard working Americans on disability like myself.

    Just remember what the Good Book says in 2 Samuel 22:10 about our gallant pilots:

    “And he rode upon a cherub, and did fly: and he was seen upon the wings of the wind”.

    So there!

    And don’t get me started on women and homos in the military, in my day the ladies stayed at home and homos stayed in the closet where they belong. We in the Navy are progressive, just not that progressive. But that’s a topic for another day!

    God bless our boys in the Navy!

  9. avatar

    I am so glad this guy is supporting the Navy OLF. It only lends the support it deserves.

    Yikes…

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