Whidbey News Times Fumbles Again

Author:Ken Wolf

Keven R. Graves, executive editor and publisher for the Whidbey News-Times, commented recently:

“This always fascinates me … we have two different sides saying the WNT is favoring the other … I guess that means we’re doing our job right if both sides think that.” Keven R Graves, May 8, 2013

http://www.whidbeynewstimes.com/opinion/205486181.html

If that were the case then why was a rebuttal comment deleted?

 

“I have an email from one of your reporters that shows a bias favoring the liberal left.”

Secondly, why is Carol Anne Peschke • Top Commenter • Seattle, Washington, allowed to splatter her vomit all over, and make inflamatory remarks such as this:

“James Bruner Unfortunately, a lot of voters fell for the aggressive smear campaign against Haugen, and many others simply didn’t pay attention to Bailey’s record. Basically, the baggers bought this seat for her, and she doesn’t represent the interests of her constituents. Hope they pay closer attention next time!”

Keven R. Graves and crew clearly do show favoritism when the enforcement of their own “rules” is slanted in favor of the liberal left.

Every playground must have its rules | Publisher’s Column March 5, 2013 • Updated 4:28 PM
http://www.whidbeynewstimes.com/opinion/195465751.html

The following segment was erroroneously provided:

Whidbey News Times and Whidbey Examiner both share the same bias.  This is obvious from the dialogue that is taking place under the exact same “opinion” piece by Harry Anderson.

Notice that Claire Bryan responded to a remark made by Robyn Kolaitis, and that Robyn’s comment is missing from the dialogue:

http://www.whidbeyexaminer.com/opinion/206033631.html

 

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22 comments

  1. avatar

    Kevin Graves actually said: “I guess that means we’re doing our job right if both sides think that.” ?!?

    News flash, Kevin: More accurately, it means that just about everyone thinks you are doing a crappy job at being a NEWSpaper.

    The enforcement of rules” at the WNT forum is laughable at face value. They change the so-called “rules” whenever it suits their agenda to do so.

    They make up whatever “rules” they want, on-the-fly, enforce them on-the-spot, but then never actually write them down in their alleged list of “rules”: http://www.whidbeynewstimes.com/terms_of_use/

    For example, if you provide a link to something the WNT “likes”, it’s perfectly okay.

    If, however, providing links does not suit their agenda, they will go so far as to BAN you from their site entirely!

    It’s a FACT:

    “Whidbey News Times is again censoring comments in their comments section this time they are censoring comments made by an author of a letter to the editor.”: http://www.islandpolitics.org/?p=7063

    “Local Newspapers Continue Banishment of Online Commenter”: http://www.islandpolitics.org/?p=8402

    Moreover, Kevin Graves demonstrated that he was going to be duplicitous practically right out of the starting gate at the WNT.

    See: “Whidbey News-Times removes on-line editorial “Carrying guns: You can, but it doesn’t mean you should” from 09 Feb on-line edition”: http://www.islandpolitics.org/?p=9070

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      Kevin Graves actually said: “I guess that means we’re doing our job right if both sides think that.” ?!?

      What Kevin Graves is trying to invoke is a “False Compromise”, and “Journalists often invoke this fallacy in the name of “balanced” coverage.”

      See: http://www.don-lindsay-archive.org/skeptic/arguments.html#compromise

  2. avatar

    I have noticed letters to the editor by NASWI encroachers – even from out of state – get free airspace while pro-NASWI voices have to be & are constrained. Raises serious questions about if Captain Nortier is right, namely the media is stoking the flames of this crisis because “sensational news sells” (04-2013 OHNL).

    BTW, I want you guys to do what the WN-T refuses to do and realize who said, quote, “Repeated calls to the base and the liaison there are a total waste of time. I’m so glad to be spending my summer in Canada, out of the Evil Empire. Besides, those planes and pilots are obsolete in the Drone Age. Close the Base,” close quote. Google it. I have the PDF of the original. Yet why is the Whidbey News-Times letting this individual (if I said who, you wouldn’t Google it) make statements like “We’re not anti-Navy at all”.

    SOMEBODY, GET ME THE WINNING POWERBALL #S AND WE’LL BUY ALL THE WHIDBEY NEWSPAPERS!

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      “Repeated calls to the base and the liaison there are a total waste of time. I’m so glad to be spending my summer in Canada, out of the Evil Empire. Besides, those planes and pilots are obsolete in the Drone Age. Close the Base.” Ken Pickard, August 5, 2012 at 10:39am

      http://www.whidbeynewstimes.com/news/164939766.html#

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        Roger that. Wanted to have it Googled so people knew I didn’t make this up. As my ex-girlfriend who worked in PR would say, I needed a “validator”.

        I think Mr. Pickard needs to realize if he and his bunch keep causing trouble, then we’re going to remind Kenny of his long-range agenda to close NASWI. Through the American taxpaying public and the MSM he’s trying to manipulate.

        First it’ll be the OLF and the EW community.

        Then w/ the P-8A Poseidons it’ll be the rest of NASWI. Remember the noise charts show moderate to high decibels over Deception Pass State Park.

        Also fully expect many of these same NASWI Encroachers to go into full panic mode when the Navy starts bringing drones into NASWI for maritime patrol. That’s a while way’s away, but still…

        IF THIS HAPPENS:

        Don’t expect any military-grade SAR to go get any environmentalists – or anybody else – stuck in the North Cascades.

        Don’t expect much in the way of an economy for Island County.

        Do expect tiny public services in Island County. Certainly no transit, few to no parks, an ever-shrinking First Responders force, etcetera.

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          Ken Pickard is one of those leading environmental whackos that is unable to coexist with the human environment around him therefore, his desire is to remove the human element (except for his fellow whackos) from Whidbey as much as possible. Paula Spina, Marianne Edain, Steve Erickson, Angie Homola, and Gary Piazzon all fall in the whacko category.

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            It’s a very reasonable conclusion that the folks you mention function precisely in that vein.

            For many of the environmentalists, such as those who you name here, “A more malevolent, man-hating philosophy is unimaginable.”

            See: “AGAINST ENVIRONMENTALISM”
            http://www.aynrand.org/site/PageServer?pagename=objectivism_environmentalism

      2. avatar

        Ken Pickard typically spends his summers sailing his sailboat elsewhere, away from Whidbey Island: his actions and attitude are typical of what very rich, liberal elitists do and say.

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          Yup and because he doesn’t hear the Growlers enough, the ears don’t adjust to the pleasant sound.

          Takes a bit of time to appreciate.

  3. avatar

    Against my better judgment, this went out for publication in the WNT:
    ———————–
    9 May 2013

    Dear Editor;

    I thank Mr. Van Voorst for his letter asking more boisterous support of NAS Whidbey Island. There was one point that Mr. Van Voorst raised that I feel needs empathizing, namely the NASWI Encroachers’ desire to close NAS Whidbey Island. One only need Google, “Repeated calls to the base and the liaison there are a total waste of time. I’m so glad to be spending my summer in Canada, out of the Evil Empire. Besides, those planes and pilots are obsolete in the Drone Age. Close the Base.” That’s Ken Pickard last summer stating his agenda is to “close the base” because as Pickard said later in the comment thread, “The NAS Base keeps the Island dysfunctional.”

    Perhaps if Mr. Pickard and compatriots would like to receive eminent domain… then by all means, keep complaining. Those of us who live in Sedro-Woolley; Seattle; Springfield, MA; and Sarasota, FL really do not want to spend hundreds of millions of taxes on a new OLF instead of tens of millions removing agitating ingrates who lack patriotic duty to be fiscally responsible and support our troops please.

    Finally, individually speaking, being an Oak Harbor Navy Leaguer also means to me a privileged chance to thank the sailors in person and speak from the heart my appreciation for living in a free country. Our loud troops and equally loud First Responders ensure America is not dysfunctional, thank you. If you agree, please join the Oak Harbor Navy League at this crucial time please.

    Thank you;

    Joe A. Kunzler
    Sedro-Woolley, WA, USA
    ———————–
    My patience and silence end when the Professional Left gets into the lying business. Plus I think some people in positions of authority are starting to get a wake-up call: It’s too late to corral pro-NASWI voices into shutting up when there’s signs going up, websites, and blasphemous lying from the other side.

  4. avatar

    In the future, I would appreciate being contacted prior to your assuming that I have been “edited” by the WNT. #1 – if I was to be edited on that site, I am more than capable of standing up for myself. #2 – basic research (you know, contacting me and asking me) would be prudent prior to publishing a presumed fact regarding me on this website.
    Frankly, I believe that Mr. Graves is a vast improvement over his predecessor thus far and I am keeping an open mind – and eye – on WNT reporting moving forward.

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    Well Robyn, what are the facts? Did you delete your own comment and if so why? If you did delete your comment then a retraction is forthcoming. Regardless of your opinion that Mr. Graves “is a vast improvement over his predecessor.” What evidence do you have that he is, in fact, “a vast improvement over his predecessor?” Please elaborate.

  6. avatar

    Ken, obviously you are slightly oblivious to how facebook works. I liked a comment, and a friend of mine responded to my “like” when it came up on her news feed. I never commented in the South Whidbey Record on this issue.
    I do not owe you any facts. You owe me an apology for your rudely making assumptions and posting my name in your blog with completely inaccurate facts and not even an attempt to investigate them.
    Seems quite hypocritical that you would bemoan the reporting by the Whidbey News Times simultaneous to your own inept “reporting”.
    And yes, often I do delete my own comments, as sometimes they are made in the context of a conversation with an individual and I do not feel the need to answer to or converse with every other person who reads the paper.

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      Frankly Robyn,

      #1 “Ken, obviously you are slightly oblivious to how facebook works.”

      Comments on Facebook are controlled by WNT, and all other Sound Publishing fish wrappers use that control to their advantage and agenda.

      You CANNOT deny that FACT.

      #2 “I never commented in the South Whidbey Record on this issue.”
      The comment in question is from the Whidbey Examiner and NOT the South Whidbey Record.

      #3 “I liked a comment, and a friend of mine responded to my “like” when it came up on her news feed.”

      OK…… you “liked” a comment “and a friend of mine responded to my “like” when it came up on her NEWS feed? Apparently, I am not the only one that is “slightly oblivious” to how Facebook works.

      #4 “You owe me an apology for your rudely making assumptions and posting my name in your blog with completely inaccurate facts and not even an attempt to investigate them.”

      OK, I apologize for making an inaccurate connection between the comments made, deleted, omitted, “liked” etc. A retraction was implemented.

      #5 “Seems quite hypocritical that you would bemoan the reporting by the Whidbey News Times simultaneous to your own inept “reporting”.

      Sound Publishing fish wrappers DO NOT admit their inept “reporting.”

      #6 “Frankly, I believe that Mr. Graves is a vast improvement over his predecessor.”

      Still waiting for your response to, “What evidence do you have that he (Mr. Graves) is, in fact, “a vast improvement over his predecessor?” Please elaborate.

      #7 Notice that the latter was… Please elaborate. “I am keeping an open mind – and eye – on WNT reporting moving forward.”

      I am NOT so inclined on that “open mind” that you have because – I- do have an EYE on Sound Publishing fish wrappers simply because they only “report” aka “parrot,” and their lack of “investigative” reporting moving forward.

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        “OK, I apologize for making an inaccurate connection between the comments made, deleted, omitted, “liked” etc. A retraction was implemented. #5 “Seems quite hypocritical that you would bemoan the reporting by the Whidbey News Times simultaneous to your own inept “reporting”.”

        That was all I needed. I don’t owe you an explanation for anything. (and I left in #5 because it still pertains).

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          Well Robyn, make note of the fact that the first two points are accurate. Second, there are several people who CAN provide examples that make the case for the third point.

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            WHY is my name still in this “article”? Come on now. Ken, I think I have been very nice thus far, but I do not want my name associated with inaccurate facts. If Sound Publishing had actually deleted my comment, it would be one thing, but they didn’t, so come on already.

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              While I cannot apologize for Ken’s mistake and I cannot remove your name from his post you have to ask yourself how did this happen to begin with? The our local Black Press affiliates have quite the history of doing exactly what Ken is claiming they have done. They have been very active in deleting comments in their comments section. I have had comments deleted before I closed my Facebook account, my wife has had comments deleted. I know of and have documented many more comment deletions, comments that were deleted only because they were in disagreement with what the newspaper wrote. Whether this is past history with Mr Graves taking over the local papers remains to be seen.

              I am not saying what Ken posted here is correct, in fact in looking at the article in question on the Whidbey Examiner I see zero comments posted to the article in question…have they been deleted? Or can I just not see them?

              I may suggest that the next time you talk to Mr. Graves ask him why the local Black Press affiliates are using a comment system that leaves itself open to replies to comments that were not made to the paper. If what you desceribe here is true, and I certainly do not question your truthfulness, what in the world is Black Press thinking? This just feeds the already known and documented history of them deleting comments. Why would a person who goes to the newspapers website and sees a reply to a comment that does not exist not think that the comment was somehow deleted?

              Maybe you should be asking Mr. Graves how the reply to your comment was included to their comment section when the conversation did not take place in that comment section to start with. That does seem to be what started all of this correct? The appearance that your comment was deleted was because the newspaper included a reply to a comment that was not made in their newspaper is what started this to be more accurate.

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                I was under the impression Robyn deleted her comment for whatever reason…not The Graves Team

                I too have not liked wording or changed my thimking with more info and deleted my comment from Facebook <(:( }

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                  And therin lies the problem with using Facebook as a commenting system. It really makes you wonder what the Whidbey News Times is thinking by using a system that they have very little control over. I do see a lot of disjointed conversation in the comments section when I make my occassional visit to the paper.

                  After years of the WNT censoring comments at will it does lead people to believe that it is still occurring with the obviously missing comments even though apparently Kevin Graves is making an attempt to make changes or so I have heard. The system they are using certainly does not do them or Mr Graves any favors…I can certainly see where Ken thought that RK’s comment was deleted by the WNT and that is because the WNT is using an outside commenting sytem not under their control.

                  With the past censorship history that the WNT has and the screwy implementation of the Facebook comment system Mr Graves has a real job trying to convince people that any changes have or will occur. All’s people have to do is look at the comments and notice that obviously comments are missing and of course they will think it is due to the WNT again censoring comments…glad it is not my problem. I have not commented at the WNT since the Facebook change and don’t miss it at all…

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              It’s really nice to know that you’ve “been very nice so far”. But I’m curious, what is an “inaccurate fact”?

  7. avatar

    Unfortunately both local rags along with the Seattle Times And Skagit Herald all sleep with the left wing ideologues that have infiltrated society. The progressive socialistic ways ,I hate to say have claimed some republicans too.
    The rags used to publish both sides and take an unbiased opinion. Things have changed since Maggy and Jackson passed on..They would be ashamed of the democrats of today. They have been hijacked by the Marxists and Communist ways. Nikita Khrushchev said the Soviet Union would overtake us,not by war but by socialism and socialistic ways…slowly..like the frog in boiling water…they have chosen the avenue of the media ..Wake up and pay attention what these news outlets and newspapers are doing….why has Obama surrounded himself with card carrying communists?..Don’t believe me..check it out yourself..we can start by taking the local rags back from these liberals on the Island.

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