COER Propaganda Continues

Author:Ken Wolf

While DemonRats like Maryon Attwood, Robert Wilbur, and Citizens of Ebey’s Reserve (COER) write letters to the editor in the local fish wrappers complaining about the concrete barriers recently erected in response to trespassing and vandalism at the airfield they forgot ONE fact. The Navy Outlying Field is not part of Ebey’s Landing National Historical Reserve therefore; the Navy is NOT in violation of Section 106 of the National Historic Preservation Act.  “The reserve board, or the local National Park Service” has NO business getting involved with the Navy’s plans to build this barrier.   The Advisory Council and National Park Service do NOT have jurisdiction OUTSIDE Ebey’s Landing National Historical Reserve.  Secondly, even IF they had jurisdiction, what part of “advisory” does COER, Maryon Attwood, and Robert Wilbur not understand?  What special powers does the Advisory Council have except make a “comment with regard to such undertaking?”  What does the National Park Service have to do with Section 106 of the National Historic Preservation Act?  NOTHING!  Imagine a nation where EVERYTHING must be approved by a body of BureaucRats who are not accountable to the electorate.  We are already there!

http://www.nps.gov/ebla/planyourvisit/upload/ebeyslandingmap.pdf

Section 106

[16 U.S.C. 470f — Advisory Council on Historic Preservation, comment on Federal undertakings]

The head of any Federal agency having direct or indirect jurisdiction over a proposed Federal or federally assisted undertaking in any State and the head of any Federal department or independent agency having authority to license any undertaking shall, prior to the approval of the expenditure of any Federal funds on the undertaking or prior to the issuance of any license, as the case may be, take into account the effect of the undertaking on any district, site, building, structure, or object that is included in or eligible for inclusion in the National Register. The head of any such Federal agency shall afford the Advisory Council on Historic Preservation established under Title II of this Act a reasonable opportunity to comment with regard to such undertaking.

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    Hey COERcers,

    Those ecology blocks are for you, monuments to your stupidity enemies-domestic. If not for your coercive threats and actions against those risking their necks to protect you, the blocks would be unnecessary. It’s good to know that your tax dollars helped to pay for them. Would you like a fence with razor wire and sensors too? Bottom line: The U.S. Navy doesn’t bow to the bully tactics of misfits.

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      When is someone going to paint said blox I was hoping for a bright safety orange. Or another Ebey’s unapproved color :)

      Red

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        Although Liberal hero, G. Soros, would probably provide orange paint with bus loads of college student painters for free, I respectfully suggest Navy blue with a gold star and a couple gold stripes, or Red, White and Blue. Or leave them natural, as commemorative CERT (“blockhead”) tombstones.

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    Thanks Ken, your timing for this couldn’t have been better! I used your words on the WNT site in response to Maryon Attwood’s letter, Thanks

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      Bill,

      Your comments are not there. You have been banned from commenting on Keven R. Graves’ three little “Mean Girl” websites. Too many DemonRats complained to Keven, and now Keven must satisfy his constituents therefore, you too are banished. They want YOU silenced! Welcome to Keven R. Graves’ and DemonRats’ YOU Are Banished from Commenting on Keven’s Mean Girl Websites for Life Club!

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        I’ve been banned,too. One of the forbidden actions is to question the professionalism of calling folks names such as “thuggish” “lowbrow” “rabid pit bulls” etc

        We also are not permitted to question the appearance of conflict of interest.

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          I’m guilty of both.

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          Remember when Keven R. Graves agreed with Supreme Court Justice John Roberts statement: “As a nation we have chosen a different course — to protect even hurtful speech on public issues to ensure that we do not stifle public debate.”

          Keven R. Graves is a two faced liar.

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            Freedom of speech is ok as long as it’s Newspeak. Otherwise, it’s every chick : – ) (sexist, i know) for herself.

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    Coer is nothing more than a bunch of pissing whiners.

    I live a couple of doors from Paul(a) spina I can tell you it ain’t that bad.

    The navy is curtailing flights to >8k a year. Great what’s the problem?

    COER can never be satisfied ever!

    The only things I would ask for is 3-4 guaranteed days each month that sorties won’t be flown on and 90 days notice of them. (It makes planning weddings & family things, funerals etc. just so much better.) hey that would make me happy speechless.
    And if the navy was feeling really generous how bout some vouchers for sound proofing upgrades( I am not rich like the spina’s).I say this the f-18 does sound louder even though it is not registered in DB’s due to pitch differences. And though my house is done to code for the old noise zone scheme. It could use more.

    Now the bozo’s in DCD need to get their act together.
    Starting with a new noise zone disclosure.
    It should be required for both showing & transferring of property.
    Also should state that noise mitigation is expensive & required and that it could add 30% or to the cost of a permitted project. I know that’s what it cost me for my little cabin I built.
    Also a much starker noise map with crash zones listed.

    If this hurts property values, which it might then the county can adjust taxes accordingly. Any loss of revenue will be offset by keeping the navy happy.

    I say close rhody park & let the industrial park expand that will give us more jobs. Also ease requirement for business in the noise zone that are not based on retail & tourism. (ie noisy business that actually produce something of tangible value) so they can operate without the problems caused by the usual suspect.

    I sure I missed something so just ask before a flame.

    Thx

    Red

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      Why should any disclosure need to be made to someone buying property near any of the airfields? They are big as life, visible to the public, and in the case of airfields in Island County, there are maps and other information on the county public website.

      Is the public so lame they cannot be expected to do their own due diligence? Some days people seem to argue that we’re over regulated, other days that we don’t regulate enough.

      Do we coddle everything now? Disclose! A giant bat might bite you and give you rabies! Disclose! A giant slide might happen and take your house! Disclose! A wild moose might start living in your field and try to mate with your cow! Disclose! There are often 3 hour ferry lines! Disclose! The beaches aren’t all public! Disclose! Deer run onto the highway every day/night! Disclose! Cell service doesn’t work everywhere here!

      Well … I think you get the picture.

      I drove out today to look at the cement blocks. They are neat and orderly, and look decent. They seem like an effective way to keep trespassers in vehicles off this property.

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        Yes you need disclosure.
        Because mans memory is shorter than a goat dick, that’s why you will need to remind them.

        Red

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        “Do we coddle everything now?” Mike

        YES Mike! Where have you been hiding? Today’s world is so lawsuit happy! Even COER jumped on the band wagon!

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      I believe you mean <8k.

      I don't think it really matters what you ask as far as “3-4 guaranteed days each month” or whatever, and neither does the Navy! COER and private citizens tried that over and over again…and the Navy cited mission over anything else. That’s kind of the whole point. The Navy was unwilling to bend at all, and since they work for us, the American people…that just isn’t right!

      The Navy was apparently immune to any outside influence…kind of like the NSA with regard to privacy. It doesn’t matter what branch of the Federal Government we are tallking about…they must at least acknowledge the will of the public, whether they are one person or thousands.

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    I like your post Red. I live right under the flight path but we upped the insulation when we built, should have gone triple pane though. . The new jets do drive me indoors, much more painful, but if I had a choice, I would ask they not fly so late on school nights. The business park idea is excellent, It would be the ideal place for large indoor marijuana operations, that will be springing up all over anyway.

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      Yes there is room for some specialty lite fab on the island and lack of a good location in the center of the island.

      The windows we put in where double pain with 1/4″ glass they work quite well
      I went r-30 in walls (2×10) walls as well as r-60 in the ceiling and bends in all ducts and sound damping in all vents top & bottom.

      I wear headphones outside when the f-18′s fly as it is painful.
      Cutting flights on school nights might something to suggest.

      I am not sure what mitigation of the airplanes can be done that would not affect performance.

      The new f-35 is even louder than the f-18 because it is hard to get around certain laws of physics.

      The county is going to have to come to grips with the zoning situation here.
      Paul spina should have never been given a variance to use the Crockett barn for anything but local events.
      And they will need to expand noise zone 3 to cover a lot of noise zone 2 around OLF and Fort Casey.

      Also I suggested again I think that potential buyers should be required to sign noise disclaimer before even viewing property in the OLF noise zones. And
      The disclaimer needs to be more stark about what is said.

      Also there will probably have to be some additional tax breaks for this since it is going to hold property values lower than most other areas.

      If the military does buy up any properties such as those owned by COER they need to be razed in their entirety to keep them from being occupied again….

      BTW

      Paint the blox blue with bright yellow bands & bright yellow star.
      Have volunteers come paint them I would paint a couple myself :)

      Red

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    WOW look here, the COER is going after the TITLE companies and realators

    http://disclosuredeception.wordpress.com/. Ding, round two

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      As my post above indicates about persons memory & cognition……

      I just read the sh*t on http://disclosuredeception.wordpress.com.
      I hope the good conservative realtors in this county have good E&O insurance.
      I don’t think their Bullsh*t case is winnable but will cost them a load of legal fees.
      I hope the navy will move in an clear out the few whiners, leave the rest if us alone & bulldoze the whiners properties after purchase including the crocket barn I am tired of rock concerts till midnight.

      Red

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        Remember this crap? Paul(a) Spina’s Party Barn should never been permitted.

        This paragraph is funny since Ken Picard’s own argument also applies to COER:

        “Coupeville resident Ken Pickard, a musician, spoke in favor of the application. He argued that the barn has served the community as a rural event center for decades, but that the neighbors had knowingly built within 500 feet of the barn. He also protested the proposed 10 p.m. closing time. He read a newspaper article from 1895 about a party for the barn opening. The article stated that the event didn’t break up until 2 in the morning.”

        http://www.whidbeynewstimes.com/news/95654404.html

        Paul(a) Spina was not happy with the outcome so she appealed before the Island County Commissioners. Angie Homola and Helen Price Johnson were all too happy to accommodate Paul(a) since she is one of their biggest campaign contributors.

        Let’s not forget the frivolous lawsuit Paul(a) filed when she was thrown off the Historic Review Committee.

        http://www.whidbeynewstimes.com/news/38942424.html

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          Our liberal county commissioners have allowed this to happen and will allow this too continue as long as we have a liberal majority. I consider Commissioner Johnson one of the liberals as long as she continues her present behavior and actions. We have no one to blame but ourselves, the public, for electing those who do not have the best interest of all county residents in mind when making decisions.

          What we have now is a collection of liberals in office that will do everything to destroy our way of life and want to grow government and it’s control over us the citizens. The only voice we have in the commissioners office that maintains these basic principles in government has been sidelined by a commissioner that is a wolf in sheep’s clothing and will grow our government and it’s control over the people at all costs. That is why Commissioner Johnson, even though she states she is a conservative Republican, has lost every bit of support from those who believe that the ultimate power is reserved to the people in this state…she is no better than Angie Homola, at least Ms. Homola was honest in her beliefs unlike Commissioner Johnson.

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    Chapters 9 and 14 of the Island County Code both contain noise disclosure statements but cover different areas. Ch14 is for every county property, camino south Whidbey, etc.. Ch9 is in addition to ch14,
    for property around NASWI and OLF AICUZ This tactical jet disclosure is for the prairie people but they are claiming the were duped by the motivated seller and their realators and only saw the MLS form. New tactic, go after the realators title companies and county.

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    Boy Cliff, you say liberal as if it’s a bad thing. The labels liberal and conservative have a million shades of gray, the world is not black and white. I would guess everyone, except those making money by pretending to be strident, have some conservative beliefs and some liberal beliefs, generals on down.
    The key is to find out what those beliefs are before an election. obama is a good example of someone who said some very liberal things to get elected, but has done what his wall st masters want him to do after the election, a real wolf in sheeps clothing. Hillary will be the same, gotta run someone much better than Romney. Barely a gnats bit of difference between Romney and Obama, except Romney had stone political fingers.

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    Does it not tell you twice traveling South on SR 20 Welcome To NAS Whidbey Island… both before you even hit the first stop light! If only there was a similar sign at the clinton ferry dock heading north…..

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    I guess the people who live outside Sandia or any other national lab would have nothing to bitch about if their kids ended up with leukemia or the female population ended up with a 50% increase in breast and ovarian cancer.

    They bought their houses next to a nuclear facility, what did they expect! The facility was there first, so its all their fault! Bunch of whiners!!!

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    Good Morning,

    Given the recent nasty and uncalled for attacks in our local liberal/communist media on our gallant U.S. Navy, I just had to comment.

    As a retired Navy Chief I’ve seen my share of anti-American crap in Whidbey newspapers, but the latest attacks on “the sound of freedom” take the cake. I lived under the flight path for OLF for years and can honestly say that I never minded the noise (truth to tell I’m almost completely deaf due to jet noise from many years of flight deck duty following WWII on board the USS Bonhomme Richard, those F9s were really loud). I bet half the people complaining are hippies on the dole taking money from hard working Americans on disability like myself.

    Just remember what the Good Book says in 2 Samuel 22:11 about our gallant pilots:

    “And he rode upon a cherub, and did fly: and he was seen upon the wings of the wind”.

    So there!

    And don’t get me started on women and homos in the military, in my day the ladies stayed at home and homos stayed in the closet where they belong. We in the Navy are progressive, just not that progressive. But that’s a topic for another day!

    Hope I haven’t offended anyone, but I just had to get that off my chest!

    God bless our boys in the Navy!

    J. Jones, USN (retired)

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      You have certainly not offended myself.

      Thank you for your service and your comments sir.

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